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mashed in maryland 12:28 Tue Nov 24
What's your favourite religion?
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With all the ISIS/Jews talk it's slightly topical.
I like Buddhism. Bit of a cliche I know. don't really know fuck all about it tbf but they seem a happy bunch.
A lot of Born Again Christians seem really happy as well. Never met one who I thought was a cunt.
Scientology gets a shout for the way they basically admit they're a cult out for money and no one does anything, plus they control a lot of the media (like the Jews).
You lot?
Discuss.
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AfM
5:12 Wed Nov 25
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Nonsense, Wiltell.
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Willtell
4:35 Wed Nov 25
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Religion is only for weak minded individuals afraid of living and taking responsibility for themselves and their family.
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AfM
4:25 Wed Nov 25
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Cheers Lily. Will do.
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Lily Hammer
4:22 Wed Nov 25
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Afm
The book is called "In The Begining" and the cover has the Cistine Chapel image of touching fingers, but fingers of a human and a robot.
The little text you linked us to seems to suggest the direction of the book in relation to 7 days v 15 billion.
It's well worth a read if you are as interested in all this as you seem. At the very least you will gain much ammo to shoot down those who quote it in future.
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AfM
4:22 Wed Nov 25
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I love me some Asimov but you've oversold that one, Lily.
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Lily Hammer
4:17 Wed Nov 25
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Boys. Calm. I didn't say genesis lines up perfectly with what we think today. Asimov said that there were some parallels that made the allegorical explanaition less ludicrous than the literal reading.
I only mentioned this idea of not reading relgious texts literally to put the idea out there that perhaps it was not the intention of the authors for it to be taken literally.
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AfM
4:13 Wed Nov 25
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Lily, is this it?
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/exploringourmatrix/2011/12/how-it-happened.html
I'm disappointed if so. You led me to believe it was much, much more.
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i-Ron
4:13 Wed Nov 25
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Genesis, the first book of the Bible, makes a scientific error by describing the moon as a light.
In Genesis, God is depicted as creating two lights for the sky: the greater light is the sun and the lesser light is the moon. though, because the moon is not a light like the
This contradicts what we know from science, sun. The moon only reflects light from the sun. It's an error to claim that the moon is any sort of source of light like the sun and stars are.
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i-Ron
4:12 Wed Nov 25
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There is a scientific error in Genesis, the first book of the Bible, about the nature of plants.
Genesis depicts God creating plants on the third day even though the sun, which is responsible for the ability of plants to live, isn't created until the fourth day.
You can't have plants without photosynthesis and you can't have photosynthesis without the sun, so the biblical account of creation contradicts what we know from science.
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i-Ron
4:11 Wed Nov 25
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Genesis, the first book of the Bible, has an error in the depiction of night being separated from day. According to Genesis, God created light and separated day from night on the first day. However, the sun and stars which produce light weren't created until the fourth day. Since the sun is what separates day from night, that separation couldn't have happened until the fourth day. So what happened on the first day?
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AfM
4:11 Wed Nov 25
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Lily Hammer 2:32 Wed Nov 25
Well, the idea of life coming from space (although the Earth is in space so it's a slightly moot point) dates back to ancient Greece at least.
It wasn't a more scientific idea rather than just a random idea until much more recently. People having random ideas doesn't provide evidence for anything though...well aside from the brilliance or otherwise of human imagination.
"The world created in 6 days, 7th day rest. Makes no sense literally, but divide 4.6 billion into 7 equal portions and then read Genesis' reports on what happned on that day, and it it quite close to what science believes."
It's a lovely idea but I can see no way at all in which that is anywhere near true. It's starts off pretty dreadfully.
The Bible says the Sun wasn't created until the 4th day and that there was light before the Sun. That is dramatically wrong according to the science.
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Lily Hammer
4:08 Wed Nov 25
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ManorParkHammer 4:04 Wed Nov 25
Well, you could start with checking out what the learNED scientific gentleman said on the subject, himself, rather than adding sweet nothing to my amateur efforts of explaining.
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Far Cough
4:06 Wed Nov 25
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God definitely made a ricket when he created Manor Park
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ManorParkHammer
4:04 Wed Nov 25
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'His conclusion was that much, not all, of the genesis lines up with what we believe today.
One example. The world created in 6 days, 7th day rest. Makes no sense literally, but divide 4.6 billion into 7 equal portions and then read Genesis' reports on what happned on that day, and it it quite close to what science believes.'
I don't even know where to start.
Christ almighty.
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cholo
3:46 Wed Nov 25
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Lily
Did you read through the whole of that book?
If so congratulations, or maybe that should be commiserations? I thought some of the bits I did read were good ideas but much of it was merely a "pattern finding exercise" in the same way people find "accurate " predictions in the works of nostradamus, but only after the event.
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Lily Hammer
2:32 Wed Nov 25
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If our brains have been like they are now for at least 200,000 years, how can you say nobody could have theorisedf on this kind of thing just 10,000 or 20,000 years ago? Especially knowing how many religions since would destroy anyone thinking like this and would have destroyed anything written down like this....or locked them in the vault under the Vatican, of course. ;-)
I mentioned recently, I think to gph, an interesting book by Isaac Asimove, where he compares the first juicy bit of Genesis with science's version of creation. He obviously wanted to avoid reading Genesis literally, but picked it apart verse by verse, line by line, word by word, and thought "What MIGHT they have meant when they wrote this line/word?"
His conclusion was that much, not all, of the genesis lines up with what we believe today.
One example. The world created in 6 days, 7th day rest. Makes no sense literally, but divide 4.6 billion into 7 equal portions and then read Genesis' reports on what happned on that day, and it it quite close to what science believes.
Asimov said the writers of these texts could well have been teaching complex stuff in a manner known to this day by teachers as "Lies to children." It's when you teach a child an untruth, that is close enough to the truth for now, but with the intention of given them a better, more correct info later when they are big and clever enough to handle it.
Asimov is not the last word on anything, but an intelligenmt man of science above all else. He is open to the amazing posibility mentioned, that certain people way back may have been much more advanced in their knowledgetan any one would believe today.
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AfM
2:10 Wed Nov 25
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Lily, I don't see how panspermia could be supported by ancient myths. There is no way that people back then would have been able to work out how life came to be and certainly would not have been around to see it. It had already been evolving for millions, if not billions of years by the time these creation myths were thought up.
The "taking off again" can be easily explained by people embellishing stories. That happens all the time, always has and probably always will.
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Lily Hammer
2:02 Wed Nov 25
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AfM 1:42 Wed Nov 25
Yes, that is another possibility, much more plausible too. The translations I read mentioned a black smoke, but nevertheless, I'm sure many natural occurances could easily be considered magical or holy to an ignorant eye, just like the northern lights and eclipses.
Still, the point stands that the sumerian texts mentioned the gods arriving from the skies (or heaven, as it's called in many languages) and also taking off to go back to the skies. Prooves nothing, but it's at least nibbles for thought, even if not substancial food.
Another twist on this, is if you read these stories as poetical explanations of how we came here. Maybe humans are really the gods they mean and we arrived on meteors or comets, which is considered a strong possibility by contemporay scientists. I'm sure you're well aware of the theories on Panspermia. That wouldn't explain the stories of taking off again, of course.
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Tomsdad
2:01 Wed Nov 25
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Are the Amish a way of life or religion?
Quite like them, they don't bother anyone!
Although, I would sneak a Tele in my shed.
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AfM
1:58 Wed Nov 25
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It's also for people who have been indoctrinated into it or simply brought up in a world where it is prevalent and never really thought too deeply about it, Saul Bollox.
There are plenty of exceedingly clever people who also belong to a religion.
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Saul Bollox
1:56 Wed Nov 25
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I thought religion was for the inadequate, the unintelligent and the clinically insane.
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